Tuberculosis, 2016 Kansas Music Hall of Fame

(Frank) Today on Around Kansas we start with a look at Tuberculosis, also known as Consumption and the White Death, and how it affected the state in the 1900’s. Then on a lighter note, learn who the 2016 Kansas Music Hall of Fame inductees are. Next enjoy a poem from Ron Wilson and we’ll end with a trailer from a new documentary titled “Thof’s Dragon.”Closed Captioning Brought to you by Ag Promo Source. Together we grow. Learn more at

(Frank Chaffin) Good morning, I’m Frank. (Deb Goodrich) I’m Deb. (Frank) And this is Around Kansas. I don’t know why it’s running through my head but I don’t know if you remember Don McNeill’s Breakfast Club, “Good morning, Breakfast Clubbers, good morning to ya”. (Deb) No. (Frank) You don’t? (Deb) No. (Frank) Okay. Well, I’m showing my age, no; Don McNeill’s Breakfast Club was on radio for many, many years. Of course, my dad worked for Santa Fe, so we went to Chicago a lot and that’s where the broadcast came from. (Deb) Oh, neat. (Frank) We went to the Breakfast Club, Don McNeill’s Breakfast Club, once when I was a kid. They really did march around a breakfast table. Because all of the people that were the actors and announcers and all of that were on a dais upfront. Then they would have the first call to breakfast and it was march around the breakfast table. So you got to march around and come back and sit down. It was kind of like the radio version of The Today Show – (Deb) Yes? (Frank) – in many ways. (Deb) So they would have guests, and interview them? (Frank) Oh, yes. (Deb) Oh, neat. (Frank) And then there’d be the second call for breakfast and then you’d march around the breakfast table. It was really cool. I mean that was a long time ago. Because I’m old and I still remember that like I did it last week. (Deb) Sort of like a crazy Rotarian morning meeting. (Frank) Yes. So, good morning, Breakfast Clubbers. (Deb) [Laughs] We should– we could do that, we could– yes, call everybody to break–. Actually, I was thinking of Romper Room, Frank, a Romper Room for old people, you know that? [Laughter] (Deb) With Nancy around– (Frank) With Nancy around, yes. (Deb) “I see you,” you know. (Frank) [Laughs] (Deb) Gosh, didn’t you always wait for it to say your name? “I see through my little magic mirror” or whatever it was, you know. (Frank) [Laughs] (Deb) “I can see you.” (Frank) Yes, anyway. (Deb) [Laughs]. Yes. Yes, we’re on early in the morning; we could do something around the barn or something. We could do– yes. (Frank) I have a tape of a Breakfast Club show; I’ll have to play it for you. (Deb) I would love to hear that. I’d love to hear that. So what kind of people did they interview, local celebrities? (Frank) Local celebrities. Well, of course, Chicago was Second City then and you would have big stars come through. Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby and– (Deb) Wow. (Frank) Oh, yes. Yes. (Deb) Sort of like when I had my radio talk show, same thing? (Frank) Yes. Yes. [Laughter] (Deb) Same thing but different. (Frank) Yes. (Deb) Yes. (Frank) Anyway, but see, a lot of those radio shows were done from large studios, and of course this was ABC in Chicago, that’s where they were based. Of course, this was before television too, so they had a lot of studios and this one happened to be kind of a penthouse kind of studio. If you’ve been at the Top of the Tower, here in Topeka, it was very much like that. (Deb) Oh, wow. (Frank) Yes. (Deb) Very nice. (Frank) So it was cool. (Deb) Very nice. (Frank) Good morning, Breakfast Clubbers. (Deb) Well, I’ve enjoyed this trip down memory lane. How about you, folks? [Laughs] (Frank) They’re probably asleep. (Deb) [Laughs] We’ll be back in just a minute, stay with us.

(Frank) Okay, we’re back again. And I will settle down, we have some good stories to talk to you about here today. (Deb) Yes, this first one is serious. I’ve got to tell you, we’re going to talk about how just a century ago, because I’m all about history, I don’t remember this, unlike Frank who remembers these actual occurrences, I don’t’ remember this. When TB was such a rampant problem around the world, still is in many countries, but in America it was truly a problem. I come across that in a lot of things, when I’m researching, I come across a lot of references. Going again in the Way-Back Machine to when I was a child, I remember my grandpa was going to a sanatorium because they thought he had TB. It turned out he had been a coal miner for 18 years, so it turned out it was only scar tissue. But I can remember how devastating that was for the family, because in those days they associated TB diagnosis with a death sentence. Because they had seen so many people die from the disease, and thankfully, we fight cancer, we fight all these other things, but the progress in our lifetimes in fighting TB is incredible. It’s just incredible. And so many, polio, in our lifetimes has just turned around. I have a lot of friends and relatives who are just, what, barely older than I am, that did not have the inoculations that I had. You can remember what the world was like before those things. This is a pretty important story. It was called “consumption” because the disease seemed to consume its victims. They dropped weight, coughed, hacked and became walking shells of themselves. One of the most famous sufferers was John Henry “Doc” Holliday who came west in the hopes that the dry air would offer some relief. Tuberculosis. TB. The White Death. A diagnosis of the disease was virtually a death sentence a mere century ago. Cases of TB have been recorded since ancient times, and because of the way it ravaged the body and its infectious nature, it even became associated with vampire lore. Tuberculosis ravaged America. Pulmonary Tuberculosis, the manifestation of the disease in the lungs, was most commonly recognized. It was such a widespread and devastating disease that states built sanatoriums, long-term hospitals to treat patients and halt the spread of the disease. While some people viewed the sanatoriums as mere holding facilities where people waited to die, or just a way to isolate them from society, the bed rest, breathing treatments and medicines did help many patients regain their health and return to their families. The Norton State Tuberculosis Sanatorium opened in 1914 and the Hillcrest Hospital in the Highland Park community of Topeka became affiliated with the facility. These hospital complexes would be comparable to the Veteran’s Administration Hospitals that many of us are familiar with today. The hospitals maintained their own farms and dairies and stressed healthy diet as part of the treatment. Weight gain was a measure of recovery. Records say the Norton facility resembled a small city. It has since been converted to the Norton Correctional Facility. Vaccinations and increased understanding of the spread of the disease has largely controlled its impact in Kansas today, though health officials remain vigilant and monitor cases of TB very closely.

(Frank) Hey, and good morning again, this is Around Kansas. I’m Frank and she is Deb and you are not. (Deb) Aren’t you glad? (Frank) Chevy Chase I’m not, so anyway. [Laughter] (Deb) Fun story. Fun story now. (Frank) Yes. (Deb) Kansas Music Hall of Fame. (Frank) The late Bill Lee really was quite farsighted in setting up the Music Hall of Fame because as we know if you watched the show over the years we have been on, we have talked about a lot of the musicians that are from Kansas. It was only right and fitting to have a Music Hall of Fame. (Deb) God bless Bill for creating that and making it all happen. The inductees, many of whom I have been blessed to know like Alan Blasco who is the president. He’s being inducted this time and I know some of the others. One that I have not met yet, though we featured him is Samuel Ramey. Samuel Ramey is from Colby. If you recall we did a segment on the museum in Colby that has a beautiful exhibit on Samuel Ramey. If you get a chance to hear that man perform, my God, he’s just incredible as are all these musicians. What an incredible pool of talent we have. (Frank) Yes. We are kind of behind because the Hall of Fame hadn’t been around that long and so you are going to have to put a lot of people in all of a sudden. Anyway– (Deb) Unfortunately, we got a lot of people, a lot of talented people to induct. (Frank) There are a lot of them being inducted this year and that is what my story is all about. Let’s take a look. The election is over. The votes have been cast. The board has met, and the results are in. The 2016 Kansas Music Hall of Fame Inductees and performers at the Induction Ceremony are: Billy Bob and the Belaires-Beloit; Sawdust Charlie, Wichita; Mark Selby and The Sluggers-Salina; South of the Tracks-Manhattan; Thumbs-Lawrence; Charlie & the Stingrays-KC. Completing this year’s inductees are: King Alex & the Untouchables-KC; Marva Whitney-KC; Roger Walls-Rose Hill; The Fabulous Apostles- Wichita. The DIRECTORS AWARDS go to: Dick & Jay, KY-102- KC and Wayne Rouse-Manhattan. The BOB HAPGOOD AWARD goes to Orin Friesen of Benton. The Kansas Music Hall of Fame was established in 2004 to recognize and honor performers and others who have made significant contributions to the musical history of the state of Kansas and the greater Kansas City metropolitan area. The Hall of Fame will endeavor to promote public interest in the musicians of the past and encourage those of the present and future. Inductions will be held March 5th at Liberty Hall, Lawrence, and tickets are available from their box office. On Friday night, March 4, a jam with inductees is held at the Holiday Inn in Lawrence, which also offers room discounts to those attending the event. Kansas Music Hall of Fame Allen Blasco invites you to foster the talent and dedication of these performers while enjoying a night of unsurpassed entertainment.

(Ron Wilson) Being thrifty is a virtue. My kids might say that I’m cheap, but of course that all depends on what the Cowboy wants to spend money on. This poem is entitled “The Bargain”. My wife and I went to the big city sometime back. I stopped by the western store to price some tools and tack. I need another pitchfork. But I sure said, No dice. When I saw they were charging an $18 price. That’s way too much I said, and we went on down the road, cause I thought I’d find a bargain in an ad the paper showed. Our farm paper advertised a used tool and equipment sale, where I figured I could get a bargain without fail. It was part of an auction scheduled on a Saturday soon. The equipment sold in the morning and the horse sale was at noon. So I bid on a pitch fork when we went over to the sale, and got it for $8 bucks, less than half the price retail. I was proud of myself and my wise and thrifty ways, when that auction entered into its next and final phase. The horse sale had begun and the very next thing, the most beautiful quarter horse was led into the ring. A gorgeous 15-hand gelding, his color was bay, with great breeding lines registered by HQHA. The owner gave a glowing talk about his many strengths. To have that horse I realized, I’d go to any lengths. So in spite of my wife a whispering in my ear, I raised my hand and caught the attention of the auctioneer. And then before I hardly realized just what I did, I ran her up and finally got the winning bid. I put that horse in the trailer and we drove to the home place. I didn’t like the look upon my dear wife’s face. I could tell I was seriously on my wife’s bad list. I finally said, Hon, I’m sorry. I just could not resist. I knew she was suffering buyer’s remorse, from the $4,000 dollars I’d spent on that horse. I said, I guess I’m sorry for the way I behaved, but don’t forget that pitch fork and the $10 dollars that we saved. Well it took a while, but my wife has finally forgiven me. She says I am a poster child for false economy. Happy Trails.

(Frank) Back again. I don’t know why but now I have another silly song going through my head and that’s Puff the Magic Dragon. (Deb) Because we are talking about dragons. (Frank) We are going to do a dragon story. (Deb) Thof’s Dragon. (Frank) The magic dragon. (Deb) Not Puff, Thof not Puff. (Frank) What is it? (Deb) It’s Thof. Theophilus Turner said T-H-O-F, Thof was the Theophilus Turner’s nickname. (Frank) Okay. (Deb) Theophilius Turner who was a post surgeon out of Fort Wallace in 1867, like many soldiers he was bored out of his gourd and so he goes out and he finds this fossil, this plesiosaur, with the help of Brenda Tropf, who is art teacher at Sharon Springs High School, oh my gosh, Brenda grew up there. She’s so talented, and she is doing the film work. Dr. Jake with a lot of our friends reenacting. Carson Norton is Theophilus Turner. When I first saw him dressed as an army surgeon from that era, I about cried because he looks just like him. It was incredible. Ethan Riggs is our Medicine Bill Comstock, who was the scout. We are in the middle of production but we’ve got a little snippet to show you, and I’m thrilled about it. Not Puff. Man’s voice: We all sympathize with you and your afflicted family, Sir, in this, your sudden and terrible loss and profound grief. For we too had learned to love the deceased for his many good qualities of heart as well as of mind, still we are overwhelmed with sorry at the sundering of the warm social ties that bound us to him. Second Man’s voice: This man, this man he speaks of is my son, Dr. Theophilus Turner, Assistant Surgeon U.S. Army. I missed too much of my son’s life. For reasons only I truly understood, I withheld communication with him for a time while he was stationed at Fort Wallace, Kansas. I regret those lost moments and it is only in his death that I am truly understanding the type of man he had become. A man of great character, a talented and compassionate physician, a young man with a spirit of adventure combined with an intellectual curiosity to always learn more, yet, a man with strong convictions, and an undying love for his family. In his many letters he wrote of an important discovery he made on the plains of Kansas, however, he was never recognized for his tremendous contribution. He wrote of his adventures in those letters and now I cling those last words. This is a journey I need to take, a journey to discover my son.

(Frank Chaffin) Hey, we’re done again already. I’m Frank, I’m Deb. (Both) We’ll see you somewhere Around Kansas.

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